This week one of my pieces titled, iGay, iLesbian, iBisexual – Xhosalisation of English, which focuses on the trouble with indigenous South African languages and the derogatory terms they use to describe and talk about LGBTI communities was discussed on different platforms. The piece also tackles the way that African languages in South Africa are not evolving as fast as they should and their evolution is not documented. I use my mother tongue IsiXhosa as an example, that there is little to no academic work in the vernacular.
The piece was picked up by three other publishing websites. Holaafrica picked it up and then it was picked up by Voices Of Africa and lastly picked up by The Guardian. This obviously exposed me to more readers and subsequently more people engaging with the piece. This is something I am happy about because it means that we are having a broad conversation about this issue.
Towards the end of the week Radio 702 and 567 Cape Talk requested a conversation with me about the piece and the issues it raises. Here is a recording of that interview.
The feedback from the piece has been awesome. People have challenged my assertions and some people have affirmed my arguments as they also have experienced the lack of vocabulary in indigenous languages to talk about LGBTI issues. Some people on twitter have argued that some of the derogatory terms in IsiXhosa referring to LGBTI people are not in fact derogatory. Many others and I obviously disagree. In this process I have learned of a new Xhosa term for gay that I didn’t know before that may not necessarily be derogatory from a friend on Facebook, the word is “Omakhanukanodwa” which loosely translates to “those who want their own.”
Here are some of the issues raised and feedback from people while discussing the issue of language and LGBTI terms.
“It’s broad and the issues are varied and intricately intertwined. It’s a conversation that needs to happen at all levels and we, as the LGBTI population should lead it. I think you nailed by linking the derogatory language and discourse used to talk about the LGBTI population and the oppression of African languages in referring to how Western languages and discourse has been nurtured to evolve while “Other” languages have be ignored and not given space to evolve. Or how such evolution is not documented…because in everyday life in the streets the languages remain dynamic.” – Thiyane Duda
This is a great exchange I had with Fumbatha May on Facebook:
- Fumbatha May: There are words like “amakhanukanodwa” and “oodlezinye” that aren’t necessarily derogatory.
- Lwando Scott: First time hearing “amakhanukanodwa” which is very descriptive. And I’m on the fence with “oodlezinye”. But all in all this language thing is something we should wrestle with a lot more. Particularly in bridging the “culture” gap between LGBTI & Afrikan. Thank you for engaging. I’m learning as I go.
- Fumbatha May: I enjoyed your article immensely. I have long dreamed of turning the former Pick n Pay building in Bhisho into an Africana library that would house a think tank to tackle the issues you raised in the article. I do, however, disagree with your point about academia being the source of new words to describe human behaviour. Yes, for less “obvious” or “tangible” phenomena like gender identity for instance, it does become necessary for academia to give us the words to describe and explain them. However, we should not preclude the possibility of regular folk coining the phrases and popularising them (e.g. the two words I mentioned in my other comment). Also, social networks are making that process a little easier as words trend like wildfire (e.g. ukutowna – a word that existed only in East Londond, Mthatha and surrounds until it was popularized by Khaya Dlanga).
And lastly here are some exchanges on twitter:
RT @mgvoices iGay, iLesbian, iBisexual: The Xhosalisation of English http://t.co/7aFre7h2sd (@lwandoscott)
— mailandguardian (@mailandguardian) January 28, 2015
@mailandguardian @XNdimba @mgvoices @lwandoscott Eh, Lwando iLesbian nguNongayindoda gesiXhosa.
— Thembelani (@ThembeK) January 28, 2015
@ThembeK @mailandguardian @mgvoices @lwandoscott iGay nguNothwalimpahlana
— xolani ndimba (@XNdimba) January 28, 2015
That does not sound positive to me at all. NO. There are no official affirming/positive words @XNdimba @ThembeK @mailandguardian @mgvoices
— Queer Consciousness (@lwandoscott) January 28, 2015
@lwandoscott @ThembeK @mailandguardian @mgvoices The sound of it doesn’t make it nonexistent. Your feelings shouldn’t lead to denial
— xolani ndimba (@XNdimba) January 28, 2015
1. I said positive/affirming words don’t exist. “Talase” is not a positive description for gay @XNdimba @ThembeK @mailandguardian @mgvoices
— Queer Consciousness (@lwandoscott) January 28, 2015
@lwandoscott @XNdimba @mailandguardian @mgvoices What is affirming about gay or lesbian or transgender?
— Thembelani (@ThembeK) January 28, 2015
@ThembeK @lwandoscott @XNdimba @mailandguardian @mgvoices NO! Nongayindoda is BUTCH, not lesbian. It’s used for masculine presenting woman
— MaSgebenga (@SivuSiwisa) January 28, 2015
@SivuSiwisa @lwandoscott @XNdimba @mailandguardian @mgvoices For both and in particular a Lesbian.
— Thembelani (@ThembeK) January 28, 2015
@ThembeK @lwandoscott @XNdimba @mailandguardian @mgvoices Noy all masculine presenting women are lesbian. Similarly not all lesbians are MP
— MaSgebenga (@SivuSiwisa) January 28, 2015
“Nongayindoda” used to discipline women who don’t perform stereotypical femininity @ThembeK @SivuSiwisa @XNdimba @mailandguardian @mgvoices
— Queer Consciousness (@lwandoscott) January 28, 2015
@ThembeK @lwandoscott @mgvoices and that anyone who has those attributes uzama uba yindoda. No true! Men cannot be standard of definition.
— MaSgebenga (@SivuSiwisa) January 28, 2015
@SivuSiwisa @lwandoscott @HOLAAfrica that’s similar to Ndebele in #Zimbabwe . In Shona, only one derogatory term exists to describe #LGBT
— ZimbabweLGBTQ (@LGBTQAFRICA) January 28, 2015
@lwandoscott I agree. Words help to better articulate and define any situation — especially a stigmatized situation. Good read!
— Mfundi Makama (@mfundi_sibeko) January 27, 2015
@lwandoscott @HOLAAfrica great piece. As a Xhosa queer also find it difficult talking re:LGBTI b/c the language makes it seem a Western idea
— MaSgebenga (@SivuSiwisa) January 27, 2015